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Re: Lethal Injection on trial~!!
Thu, April 3, 2008 - 7:16 PMWhy are they arguing about the methods of putting people to death? Why aren't they arguing that death itself is cruel and unusual. The USofA is in the same group of weirdos as Iran, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, and China when it comes to the death penalty . . . doesn't that meet the "unusual" standard? Once upon a time Europe was in the "cruel and unusual" camp with us vis a vis the death penalty; they've progressed beyond the USofA on that score any how . . . -
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Re: Lethal Injection on trial~!!
Fri, April 4, 2008 - 6:37 AMThe particular argument is the anti-state-murder side picking away at the places that offer the most fruit.
Asserting that death is cruel and unusual has failed in the past.
I prefer the political solution anyway. We in NJ have banned the death penalty. This is good thing. For ever truly unrepentant monster in prison there may be another who might reform - even if they never let them out. And the possibility that the legal process fails ( and it does) is - for me - too great a hazard to have death as the end result of a trial.
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Re: Lethal Injection on trial~!!
Fri, April 4, 2008 - 2:59 PMArgument: Western Europe gave up the death penalty long ago.
Response: The Supremes already knew that when it reinstated the death penalty in the 1970s. -
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Re: Lethal Injection on trial~!!
Fri, April 4, 2008 - 3:35 PMTell me about it.
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Re: Lethal Injection on trial~!!
Sat, April 5, 2008 - 1:49 PM>>>The Supremes already knew that when it reinstated the death penalty in the 1970s.
I know. IMHO, on this subject, every brief should attack that opinion in a good faith effort to have it reversed . . . -
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Mon, April 7, 2008 - 5:02 PMOh, they do.
Boilerplate argument raised on appeal. Boilerplate denial in the ruling on the appeal. -
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Re: Lethal Injection on trial~!!
Thu, April 17, 2008 - 3:32 PMeventually someone will hit the right formula in their writing or the court personnel will change or enough states will out law it . . . -
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Thu, April 17, 2008 - 4:09 PMI think, for SCOTUS to budge, bunches of states will have give up the death penalty. Bunches.
And given the arguments in the child-rape death penalty cases, I don't see that happening anytime soon....
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Re: Lethal Injection on trial~!!
Wed, April 16, 2008 - 3:30 PMThoughts, reactions to "consensus court"'s ability to agree on just about only one thing (that the 3-drug cocktail isn't cruel and unusual)?
